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	<title>Comments on: Spam in Comments, Unattributed Content</title>
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	<description>Effective Internet Marketing Strategy and Technique Through Experiments, Measurement and Audit</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: search engine marketing</title>
		<link>http://blog.merjis.com/2008/02/07/spam-in-comments-unattributed-content/#comment-58532</link>
		<dc:creator>search engine marketing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The benefits of free advertising is that they not only provide you the thrill of seeing your efforts go Online, but at the same time they also give you a more stable and permanent position in the search engine rankings. Even though the results of free search engine advertising are comparatively slower than the paid searches, they are more effective because these results are permanent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The benefits of free advertising is that they not only provide you the thrill of seeing your efforts go Online, but at the same time they also give you a more stable and permanent position in the search engine rankings. Even though the results of free search engine advertising are comparatively slower than the paid searches, they are more effective because these results are permanent.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Chatfield</title>
		<link>http://blog.merjis.com/2008/02/07/spam-in-comments-unattributed-content/#comment-55783</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Chatfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 09:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some stats: Akismet has caught around 60,000 spam comments so far. I've personally marked around 100 comments as spam, when Akismet couldn't decide. One person made a real comment and followed that up with spam. I'm still not seeing a compelling reason to add Captcha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some stats: Akismet has caught around 60,000 spam comments so far. I&#8217;ve personally marked around 100 comments as spam, when Akismet couldn&#8217;t decide. One person made a real comment and followed that up with spam. I&#8217;m still not seeing a compelling reason to add Captcha.</p>
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		<title>By: Maurice (TheCaymanHost)</title>
		<link>http://blog.merjis.com/2008/02/07/spam-in-comments-unattributed-content/#comment-53161</link>
		<dc:creator>Maurice (TheCaymanHost)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 18:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with other comments on this thread - using a captcha of some kind is the only solution I have found to prevent the bulk of spam comments. Used in conjunction with Akismet plus the  Simple Trackback Validation plugin and forced moderation keeps me pretty much spam free.

With the introduction of a lot of commenting software over the past few months, particularly those that seek out "DoFollow" blogs, I think these lines of defence are essential.

Captcha's will only normally deter the drive by commenters who you don't particularly want anyway - if people are keen enough to contribute, a simple captcha does not make it harder to leave their thoughts IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with other comments on this thread - using a captcha of some kind is the only solution I have found to prevent the bulk of spam comments. Used in conjunction with Akismet plus the  Simple Trackback Validation plugin and forced moderation keeps me pretty much spam free.</p>
<p>With the introduction of a lot of commenting software over the past few months, particularly those that seek out &#8220;DoFollow&#8221; blogs, I think these lines of defence are essential.</p>
<p>Captcha&#8217;s will only normally deter the drive by commenters who you don&#8217;t particularly want anyway - if people are keen enough to contribute, a simple captcha does not make it harder to leave their thoughts IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Chatfield</title>
		<link>http://blog.merjis.com/2008/02/07/spam-in-comments-unattributed-content/#comment-48054</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Chatfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't use captcha because it, and other techniques are intrusive. Making life harder for real users, while failing to significantly add costs to spammers is the wrong answer, IMO.

The elegant design solution is to make life easy for real commenters, and preferably computationally hard but at least uneconomic for spammers. I use Akismet, which comes closest to meeting that design goal - it offers no obstacle to real commenters, and stops spammers from using this resource. 

There was no single point - there were a group of points, all related to spam, the reasons why there is spam, and the effects that it has on internet marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t use captcha because it, and other techniques are intrusive. Making life harder for real users, while failing to significantly add costs to spammers is the wrong answer, IMO.</p>
<p>The elegant design solution is to make life easy for real commenters, and preferably computationally hard but at least uneconomic for spammers. I use Akismet, which comes closest to meeting that design goal - it offers no obstacle to real commenters, and stops spammers from using this resource. </p>
<p>There was no single point - there were a group of points, all related to spam, the reasons why there is spam, and the effects that it has on internet marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Marketing Articles</title>
		<link>http://blog.merjis.com/2008/02/07/spam-in-comments-unattributed-content/#comment-47854</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing Articles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 07:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didn't you put captcha on your comments? And you're talking about spam comments? What are you trying to show here? 


-Jan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didn&#8217;t you put captcha on your comments? And you&#8217;re talking about spam comments? What are you trying to show here? </p>
<p>-Jan</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Chatfield</title>
		<link>http://blog.merjis.com/2008/02/07/spam-in-comments-unattributed-content/#comment-38264</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Chatfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 17:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Gradiva - 

I use &lt;a href="http://akismet.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Akismet&lt;/a&gt;, and it catches up to a thousand spammy submissions every day, of which I habitually check a few dozen a day, to look for new trends in SEO and products being promoted. 

IMO, obstacles to user interaction reduce the conversion rate. So &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captcha" rel="nofollow"&gt;Captcha&lt;/a&gt; reduces the likelihood of valid user interaction, as well as decreasing spam. I'd rather kill the spam and increase the ease of user interaction. Akismet better satisfies that goal.

Also Captcha should be accessible - and when I looked at Captcha a few years ago, most implementations were not designed for accessible use. Google does have someone looking at accessible Captcha, though.

I know that Matt Cutts' blog uses a computed response field - but I can imagine natural language parsers that should be able handle the arithmetic, if the blogs this protects become valuable enough. 

For cost effectiveness, most current blog spam will be duplicated. Unique comments from unique accounts and unique IP addresses are harder to generate, and way too many blogs have absolutely no protection. The result is that most blog spam is highly redundant. IOW, the evolutionary pressure to evolve more complex responses is currently low - so there's not much financial pressure to solve written arithmetic problems, and duplication makes tools like Akismet more effective. 

I'm less concerned about the impact on my blog and my blog admin, and more concerned about the effect on my clients' advertising and SEO efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gradiva - </p>
<p>I use <a href="http://akismet.com/" rel="nofollow">Akismet</a>, and it catches up to a thousand spammy submissions every day, of which I habitually check a few dozen a day, to look for new trends in SEO and products being promoted. </p>
<p>IMO, obstacles to user interaction reduce the conversion rate. So <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captcha" rel="nofollow">Captcha</a> reduces the likelihood of valid user interaction, as well as decreasing spam. I&#8217;d rather kill the spam and increase the ease of user interaction. Akismet better satisfies that goal.</p>
<p>Also Captcha should be accessible - and when I looked at Captcha a few years ago, most implementations were not designed for accessible use. Google does have someone looking at accessible Captcha, though.</p>
<p>I know that Matt Cutts&#8217; blog uses a computed response field - but I can imagine natural language parsers that should be able handle the arithmetic, if the blogs this protects become valuable enough. </p>
<p>For cost effectiveness, most current blog spam will be duplicated. Unique comments from unique accounts and unique IP addresses are harder to generate, and way too many blogs have absolutely no protection. The result is that most blog spam is highly redundant. IOW, the evolutionary pressure to evolve more complex responses is currently low - so there&#8217;s not much financial pressure to solve written arithmetic problems, and duplication makes tools like Akismet more effective. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m less concerned about the impact on my blog and my blog admin, and more concerned about the effect on my clients&#8217; advertising and SEO efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: Gradiva Couzin</title>
		<link>http://blog.merjis.com/2008/02/07/spam-in-comments-unattributed-content/#comment-38154</link>
		<dc:creator>Gradiva Couzin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like post. thankyou.  link:http://www.nephrop0rn.com/ 

JUST KIDDING!  hee hee.  Seriously though, I'm wondering why you don't use a captcha on your comments?  Or, perhaps you could do one of those Q &#38; A text fields.  Often, they ask something like "What is 8 + 2?", but you could even ask something about your industry.  Perhaps, hmm... something like: "What is the correct spelling of the phrase Mat Cuts?"

-Gradiva</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like post. thankyou.  link:http://www.nephrop0rn.com/ </p>
<p>JUST KIDDING!  hee hee.  Seriously though, I&#8217;m wondering why you don&#8217;t use a captcha on your comments?  Or, perhaps you could do one of those Q &amp; A text fields.  Often, they ask something like &#8220;What is 8 + 2?&#8221;, but you could even ask something about your industry.  Perhaps, hmm&#8230; something like: &#8220;What is the correct spelling of the phrase Mat Cuts?&#8221;</p>
<p>-Gradiva</p>
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		<title>By: Automating Content Network Management - Part 1 &#124; Merjis Internet Marketing Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.merjis.com/2008/02/07/spam-in-comments-unattributed-content/#comment-36879</link>
		<dc:creator>Automating Content Network Management - Part 1 &#124; Merjis Internet Marketing Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] For simplicity, lets double the target ROI click volume&#8230; In this example, we must see 200 clicks and no sales at all in order to decide that this site is unsuitable *for this offer*. It may be suitable for a different offer, of course&#8230; Because Contextual Matching is fuzzy, irrelevant advertising is a frequent hazard (look at the screenshot of a poor match to a page resulting from a search for &#8220;akismet-admin&#8221;, offering Windows XP Registry tweaking - completely irrelevant). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] For simplicity, lets double the target ROI click volume&#8230; In this example, we must see 200 clicks and no sales at all in order to decide that this site is unsuitable *for this offer*. It may be suitable for a different offer, of course&#8230; Because Contextual Matching is fuzzy, irrelevant advertising is a frequent hazard (look at the screenshot of a poor match to a page resulting from a search for &#8220;akismet-admin&#8221;, offering Windows XP Registry tweaking - completely irrelevant). [...]</p>
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